Studious

Alright mathematicians, I've got a question that requires some technical wizardry. If I had the option between this and Stick to the Plan, which one gives me better odds of drawing a tarot in my opening hand? We all know SttP thins your deck down by almost 10%, making your opening hand around 1/6th of your deck, assuming the deck is "clean" (i.e. it doesn't have a bunch of clutter from the campaign). Studious here has a similar effect by allowing us to see more cards with our opening hand, which lets us mulligan into our tarot more often. With 6xp put into Studious, we start with 7 cards, about 20% of our deck, so we see about 40% of it if we mulligan as aggressively as possible, right?

I'm not pitting the strength of one card against the other; I'm just curious what the math bears out in this particular scenario. Assuming we mulligan the whole hand, and the deck is clean and only 33 cards, which gives us better odds to draw card "x"? How about if we have two copies? How about if we mulligan 3-4 cards instead of the whole hand? Where do the curves meet up?

Anyway, I was just deckbuilding earlier and started to wonder about it. I think only Lola can actually take both cards, so maybe it'll be useful to someone deep into building her. What say you?

SGPrometheus · 847
Two situations-one with each card--that further increase your odds: 1.) Roland or Zoey with Stick to the Plan AND 1x Astounding Revelation will thin your deck by 4 cards instead of 3. 2.) Joe Diamond with 2x Studious draws his hand & mulligan from a deck of only 32 cards, since his signature weakness is in his hunch deck. — Herumen · 1741
Not useful for Lola because Stick to the Plan is a Reaction Trigger ability on a Guardian card which Lola can't use unless she's in the Guardian role - which she can't be in until AFTER she draws her opening hand. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
Carolyn can also run Stick to the Plan with Surprised Rabbi. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
What’s Surprised Rabbi? — Django · 5162
@Django Astounding Revelation — TheNameWasTaken · 3
Oh yeah, I forgot that little wrinkle for lola. I guess it's just pure thought exercise then. "Surprised Rabbi" is Astounding Revelation, the card that gives you two bucks if it's in the search, which it always will be since SttP searches your whole deck. — SGPrometheus · 847
The answer is you should run whichever one your class restrictions let you run anyway, because they're both stupidly powerful cards. 2x Studious goes in every Seeker deck I make, and Stick to the Plan in every Guardian deck I make. — StyxTBeuford · 13049
Purely academic answer to a purely academic question: To make it simple assume you use your whole mulligan to search for a card you have one of. Your search is double your initial hand size. You search out of 31 cards (weaknesses don’t count) or 28 with SttP. Studious gets you 12/31~38.7% chance of drawing your card; two Studiouses gets you 14/31~45.1%. SttP gets you 10/28~35.7%. — Kergma · 11
If you hardmulligan for a 2-of tarot card in a 33 card deck with 2 weaknesses(so effectively 31): Hit at least 1 tarot: 54.8%. Same deck with Stick to the plan(effectively 28 card deck etc.): 59.5% Now, with just 1 Studious and hardmulligan for your tarot, which you have 2x in your deck, you see up to 12 cards before you keep 12: 63.2% chance to have it in your opening hand. With 2x studious, you see 14 cards: 70.7%. This goes to reinforce the old wisdom: deck thinning is a fairy tale. You want to draw more cards. To equal 1 studious(1 more card drawn, 1 more card to mulligan), you would need to remove 5 cards from your deck. — Mataza · 19
Copycat

This seems like a really good card for winifred. +2 minimum, you get to draw a card and can get this one back. Yeah for a few rounds this probably wont be good at the start but once cards like steadfast or unexpected courage are played this really develops quick.

vosh · 9
Does this combo with Winifreds passive? Do you control the other investigators card and thus draw a card simply by committing this from your hand? — misterdavidjaques · 1
it does say that you commit it to the test, so i think it actually does. i hadn't actually thought of that. — Zinjanthropus · 230
Upon inspection of the rules, I don’t believe this works. Nothing in the card’s rules says that you control the skill committed. Cards in discard piles are underway their owners control, and cards enter play under their owners control unless otherwise specified. In contrast, see “You Owe Me One!” that explicitly clarifies a change in control. While I wouldn’t be surprised if synergizing with her ability is intended, RAW I see nothing that makes this work beyond inference based on an understanding of the word ‘control’ that goes beyond the defined rules of the game. — Death by Chocolate · 1489
Ah, that makes sense. Another question is, does that mean that your team-mate is not allowed to commit a skill to the test if you're committing a skill (that they control) from their discard (with Copycat)? Looking forward to some FAQs on this. Will probably be some time. — Zinjanthropus · 230
The leaflet thing says that Copycat triggers Wini's ability, so I would say that you control the team-mate's skill that was committed. — Zinjanthropus · 230
Clean Them Out

Well hot damn; three things I was gonna do anyway rolled into one card. With no boosts to combat it'll take some work to pull off sometimes, but against the chaff of most scenarios this is just what you want. Besides, you can still chuck Overpower for it or Vicious Blow in a pinch, but that's a heftier expenditure.

I'm not sure it replaces Emergency Cache however. The primary usage of emergency cache is as your first action, then actions two and three complete your setup. On the other hand, emergency cache is pretty worthless drawn late in the scenario (in my experience), while this is still fantastic. Finally, the resources it grants aren't conditional on the attack; you get them even if you miss. Hell, you get them even before you attempt it, so if you have Physical Training or Keen Eye you can spend them immediately for benefit.

Neat little card.

SGPrometheus · 847
Just use it to fight Rats, basically free money! — Zinjanthropus · 230
Or you could use the just gained resources to pay for Keen Eye and such. — Susumu · 381
Forget my comment. Missed the fact, that you mentioned just that. — Susumu · 381
Nice advantage of getting resources without an attack of opportunity too — Phoenixbadger · 199
Stunning Blow

Can I review the card's illustration and flavour text only? It might be my favourite in the game; where else does one see a monster looking so foolish?

I suppose the monster on vicious blow doesn't look foolish so much as... dead. But yeah, great art, and I actually think this card is pretty good for sticky situations when you might need to reload or just run away. — SGPrometheus · 847
Great card for high fight characters to compensate for low evade, or for high fight characters to evade an enemy off of someone else. I even like this in Rita for that reason. — StyxTBeuford · 13049
Does this combo with Silas,so you get the effect and then return it to your hand? — jdk5143 · 98
@jdk5143 No; Silas' ability pulls the card back before success is checked, so you would have to leave his committed to get the evade. — SGPrometheus · 847
I dunno. The monster on Stunning Blow always reminds me of a Muppet. — Herumen · 1741
@Herumen And... that's bad? — SGPrometheus · 847
Boxing Gloves

This seems like a card that only does the thing it appears to be designed around in one deck -- namely, the Nathaniel Cho starter deck, where almost all of your fight actions are going to be from playing an event (or just a basic melee to finish off odd-health enemies).

For other investigators, the Boxing Gloves make an awful main weapon. But that doesn't mean they're useless, since if you can include Boxing Gloves in your deck you can include Bandolier and another Guardian weapon (even a two-hander if you use upgraded Bandolier). That +1 while fighting works while you're using another weapon (as does the search effect), and while having to find your Bandolier (and forego the use of an investigation tool) first makes them harder to play than Ace of Swords, there are probably decks that would love to run both.

Thatwasademo · 58
Ashcan Pete can take Boxing Gloves and have +1 when fighting with Duke. He has access to a lot of spirit cards! — Zinjanthropus · 230
Don't forget Reliable (1) as well as Ace of Swords when comparing to Boxing Gloves. All three potentially stack but again you need to jump through Bandolier-shaped hoops to use Boxing Gloves effectively. The Ashcan Pete interaction is amazing, take this and St Huberts with desperate skills and you've got a deck. — The_Wall · 288
"While resolving a triggered ability on attached asset, you get +1 to each of your skills." Reliable doesn't work on gloves. — MrGoldbee · 1492
I don't think the suggestion was to attach Reliable to the gloves, but to attach it to your main weapon instead of playing bandolier+gloves — Thatwasademo · 58
I wonder, if this is viable or even good on Diana. The interaction with upgraded Bandolier seems less clunky, because she looks out for Willpower buffs anyway. And she loves a whole lot of Spirit events: "Ward of Protection", "I've Had Worse" (2), "Uncage the Soul", "Eldrich Inspiration", "Delay the Inevitable", "Stand Together" (0), maybe even "Blood Eclipse" (1) and/ or "Solemn Vow" with Brother Xavier, who buffs willpower as well. — Susumu · 381
Diana does love spirit events, but what she even likes more is to trigger her ability. It allows her to constantly draw new cards so she is okay with drawing and she needs a tool to use cards underneath her player card, that's why her dagger is so important for her that I even run two copies of Prepared for the Worst to be able to find it. Gloves don't fit well with the dagger, so I would discourage you to use them in Diana deck. — chrome · 65
Sure the "Twilight Blade" is great, but I would not run PftW for one card in decksize 35. Gloves would infact increase the odds for PftW not to wiff. "Bandoliere" (2) could be an option to equip both and gives a much better skill boost on top than the Gloves. Still, that's a lot of combo cards to fit together, and a lot of assets to play. Certainly not the most powerful Diana build. But at least an interesting option to consider. — Susumu · 381
Backpack (2) works much better than PftW in Diana due to being able to find any other useful items/supplies at the same time. — snacc · 1020