All In

The existing reviews have already touched on the bonkers combo potential that this has with Double or Nothing. Indeed, it is the core (along with Quick Thinking) of the well known Rogue infinite actions combo. In spite of these cards being tabooed, it is still quite possible to go infinite, it's just easier for it to be disrupted by a . My tip, for those who want to engage in this degeneracy, is to take Swift Reflexes, as it gives you a bit of a buffer zone on this disruption, and Three Aces, which allows you to guarantee the full payout on (usually) every other test. Unfortunately, the resources and cards from Three Aces can't actually be doubled, but they're still good.

I wanted to add a few points on using All In that don't require DoN:

For one thing, All In allows you to basically draw a whole new hand if you want, while cashing in on various skills. This is actually pretty great even without DoN. You could quite easily get +6 or more to the test without actually depleting your hand, or with very minimal net loss of cards. That might even be enough for you to pass a test in some cases, while still profiting handsomely from succeed-by effects. This works best if you have a lot of s in your deck because you're basically replacing generically useful cards with other generically useful cards, while drawing through your deck. Did I mention that any weaknesses you draw get shuffled back into your deck? Yeah, it's really good.

Another point about All In is about its synergy with Ace in the Hole. Ace in the Hole is an extremely powerful card that gives you +3 actions! This can be clutch even if you only draw it once. Those 3 actions can be the difference between being defeated by some treachery and defeating a boss to advance the final act. If you have All In in your deck, along with a few other sources of card-draw, it is not unlikely that you can see Ace in the Hole several times in one scenario. I would even go as far as to say that Winifred Habbamock, with a high-xp deck, (going into Shattered Aeons, for example) that includes both Ace in the Hole and 2 copies of All In, feels completely busted. This is even true without DoN, but with, it's even more insane.

The other side of that synergy is that getting 3 extra actions can help you play or commit any excess cards you have in hand from All In, so that they don't just get discarded. That's generally the only drawback of using All In, IME.

The final point is that, because this card lets you shuffle back weaknesses, if you have a nasty weakness that shuffles itself back into your deck unless there are 5 or fewer cards left in it, All In can help you get through the part of your deck that is most vulnerable to repeated draws of that (perhaps between 5 and 10 cards). I'm not sure how likely you are to be able to actually wait to get to that point, but even without that benefit, this is still a good choice for Sefina, because she runs a lot of events, and so wants to keep her hand full, anyway.

Zinjanthropus · 231
Honestly, I think the biggest addition to the infinite combo is level 0 Will to Survive completely removing the risk of the autofail on the All In/DoN/Kitchen Sink test. Jenny can run it instead of the Premonitions that deck already runs, and anyone else can take with Versatile. — Death by Chocolate · 1490
Oh yeah! I did see that card preview, now that you mention it. Had not yet made that connection. — Zinjanthropus · 231
Manual Dexterity

Manual Dexterity (2) is definitely a solid upgrade to Manual Dexterity. +1, likely +1 card. Ironically, I think this card is probably least useful in Winifred Habbamock, for the following reasons:

  • She already has built-in card-draw.
  • She already has 5 (6 if you're running Lola Santiago or Delilah O'Rourke).
  • Her ability is easiest to trigger if you prioritize skills (and Rogues have a lot of these).

    • As a side note to this, if you draw a lot of cards you will often have to discard cards during upkeep, particularly if you can't commit all of your cards to any test. This is another reason why I prefer skills in Wini. Extra action generation can also help with that, though.

That being said, I liked it a lot in a very comboey Finn deck that needed many different cards to function properly (Here it is, if you're curious). It was a decent supplement to Pickpocketing (2) to try to dig out all of those combo pieces. I do think that the Level 3 version of Lucky Cigarette Case (which will also come with the Winifred Habbamock starter deck) will probably go a long way toward helping Rogues put together elaborate combos, though.

The one place where I did like it in Wini, was when taking Versatile. It's definitely a solid deck-thinner. Other options include Daredevil, though it's a little risky, and All In, which is a 5xp card, but incredibly powerful. You might want to take All In anyway though, as it's worth , can't draw your weaknesses, and can refill your hand even if you're committing your entire hand to a single test.

Zinjanthropus · 231
Segment of Onyx

Here are some piloting notes once you put Segment of Onyx in an appropriate deck (e.g. Mandy Thompson).

Typically, if you draw 1 or 2 Segment of Onyx's in your opening hand or early few turns, you will aggressively try to get the last 1-2 by searching. If you don't get any early on, it's often better to search out other cards and let the Segment of Onyx's concentrate into a smaller deck.

When your deck is large, you should use the charges only when it really helps, because when they are gone it will be difficult to collect the Segments again. Conversely, when your deck becomes very small, your threshold to use the charges becomes smaller and smaller (e.g. you might use a charge just to move 2 locations), because if you can use them all the Segments go back in your deck, and you can get the Pendant of the Queen much faster. That being said, remember that each Segment cost you 1 card and 1 resource, so you really want to get at least 2 "action equivalents" or an important time-sensitive effect (like evading an enemy that would otherwise cause trouble) from each charge, or you are not getting any net benefit. Nonetheless, I usually used Pendant of the Queen twice each time I went through my deck with Mandy Thompson, with a maximum of 6 completely spent [Pendant of the Queen](/card/06022/s in 1 game (The Blob that Ate Everything).

jmmeye3 · 632
You arent losing actions- the segments are fast. — StyxTBeuford · 13052
Sorry, that was supposed to be “one card and one resource” — jmmeye3 · 632
Copycat

Buy this if you have Stella Clark in your team and enjoy committing Neither Rain nor Snow. Same goes with Nautical Prowess if Silas Marsh has managed to drop it.

Other than this, my favorite targets are Daring, Vicious Blow, Deduction, Brute Force, Expeditious Retreat, Sharp Vision, All In, Defiance, Fearless.

EDIT: Signature cards cannot be controlled by anyone other than their owner. Copycat cannot be used on Nautical Prowess, Neither Rain nor Snow.

Erdjo · 329
I feel like Stella might be a little peeved that she can't bring it back with Resourceful or True Survivor any more. lol. Hopefully she has a Rabbit's Foot or something. Rise to the Occasion (3) also a very good target You'll get a guaranteed +3 on the test. — Zinjanthropus · 231
Probably even worse for Silas (and his Elder Sign), actually, at least there are 3 copies of Neither Rain Nor Snow. Silas probably won't get to see his Nautical Prowess for the rest of the game. — Zinjanthropus · 231
@Zinjanthropus I already played Stella with a Winifred who copied my signature 4-5 times a scenario with Copycat - you will see it many times. It's really not what I want to Resourceful anyway. — Erdjo · 329
You are correct about annoying Silas by putting it out of reach though, but that's what rogues do - they make people mad for selfish gains — Erdjo · 329
It's true. I do really love how Rogueish this card feels. — Zinjanthropus · 231
A friendly mystic/seeker with scroll of secrets can easily overcome this problem. — jemwong · 97
As a side note, if you're playing with a Seeker who is running Surprising Find, it might actually be beneficial to bottomdeck that. Each time you find it in a search it's +1 to a random test, and +2 deck-thinning. — Zinjanthropus · 231
No love for The Home Front? — SGPrometheus · 855
The Home Front is actually a great idea! I'm sure Mark doesn't mind getting it bottomdecked. With his draw power he could maybe even find it again with Practice Makes Perfect later. — Zinjanthropus · 231
It should probably be a good backup, if your Seeker friend draws the tentacle while committing "The Eye of Truth". — Susumu · 382
Now it can! 8/26/22 taboo. — MrGoldbee · 1496
Harvey Walters

There’s a reason the individually packaged investigators can only take their color and neutral cards… Because they’re amazing at what they do. Harvey is the epitome of the big hand seeker, with almost every card he can get either helping him gain cards or helping his hand size, or taking advantage and discarding cards for effect. The man is a mobile library, and while you could play him with magnifying glasses and Hawk Eye cameras, he’s designed for books. Piles and piles of books. Celaeno fragments, forbidden Tomes, Occult Lexicons...

What separates Harvey From Daisy or Norman, however, is that he works extremely well with teammates. His ability can trigger off of others. He can gift cards with his signature card while doing actions he already wants to do, or simply be around while Winnifred or Nathaniel handle their business. It’s important to have focused characters you can give to a new player, and if they are playing Professor Harvey, they are going to be able to have fun and contribute to the game.

Plus: Tempt Fate for 2 cards in 0 actions.

MrGoldbee · 1496
What REALLY seperates Harvey from Norman is his ability to take Seeker cards above level 0! :P — Death by Chocolate · 1490
Did I read his ability correctly? Because it does not say group limit per round, if there are 4 investigators in Harvey's location, are all able to draw 1 card? — Lettucefolk · 1
@Lettucefolk, you couldn't trigger it multiple times for different investigators because, while it can be used to make other investigators draw, it's still being triggered by Harvey's controlling player, and the limit applies to that player. — Simonandduncan · 1
A question, if I search a card from the deck and add it to the hand, even though it doesn't say draw it, can it still trigger Harvey's ability? — petercheungjr · 1
@petercheungjr if it says add to hand you can't trigger Harvey's ability, but many search effects say draw, and in those cases you can trigger Harvey's ability — NarkasisBroon · 11